Minutes: #Masterclass - Triratna Site Visit (2026-06-08)

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Meeting Date: Mon Jun 08 2026
Source: Google Doc Link

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Summary

The team addressed logistical planning for the upcoming retreat and resolved mission alignment challenges despite partner friction.

Retreat Logistics and Friction
The team assessed venue accessibility and communication issues while navigating difficult interactions with the hosting partner. Disagreements regarding professional standards and event programming caused significant operational friction.

Clarifying Masterclass Mission
The team formally decided to classify the event as a content creation masterclass rather than a meditation retreat to properly align expectations with the hosting partner.

Strategic Project Focus
Leaders discussed maintaining resilience against external criticism and historical interference. The group confirmed the project scope centers strictly on Buddhist content and language preservation.

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Suggested Next Steps

• [The group] Share Minutes: Distribute the meeting minutes to Amila.
• [dish dashan sir] Create WhatsApp Group: Set up a dedicated communication channel for logistics coordination with 5 volunteers.
• [Dr. Gwok] Send Invite List: Submit the list of 20 people to be invited by July 1.
• [social media team] Assign Testimonial Slots: Determine coverage requirements for Day 2 testimonials.
• [social media team] Prepare Repl: Develop all repl material for Day 2 coverage in advance.
• [The group] Finalize Speaker Topic: Define the specific subject for Rajes Karat to present during the retreat.
• [Tenzin Palkyi, Ngawang Trinley] Review Speakers: Evaluate the guest speaker list to ensure a balanced representation between the two participating organizations.
• [Tenzin Palkyi] Schedule Financial Meeting: Schedule a meeting with partners to discuss and confirm transparent financial procedures for the upcoming event.
• [Ngawang Trinley] Create Discord Channel: Set up a new channel on Discord specifically for gathering feedback on content.
• [The group] Test Content: Evaluate app content daily from a target audience perspective and submit feedback via the new communication channel.
• [Tenzin Palkyi, Anchel] Arrange App Introduction: Organize a session to introduce the application to technical team members and relevant stakeholders.
• [Tenzin Palkyi, Tenzin Noryang] Plan Meeting: Conduct a planning meeting for tomorrow.
• [Tenzin Palkyi] Discuss Marketing: Talk to K regarding marketing strategies for the masterclass.
• [Tenzin Palkyi] Provide Breakdown: Submit a detailed breakdown of the 5000 participant fee.
• [Yash Dixit] Promote Masterclass: Connect with Buddhist creators to promote the upcoming masterclass.
• [Yash Dixit] Discuss Budget: Consult with Noa regarding the Instagram sponsored post budget.

Details

• Meeting Purpose and Attendance: Tenzin Palkyi opened the meeting to discuss the recent site visit to the Sadama Pritim retreat center, attended by Abha Achal and members of the Triatna team, to finalize logistics and programming for the upcoming retreat. While some key members like Amila were absent, the team proceeded to review the venue and program details to ensure everyone was aligned (00:03:00).
• Retreat Center Venue Overview: Abha Achal presented findings from the site visit to the Sadama Pritim retreat center, noting the goal of assessing the environment for masterclass sessions. The team identified the dining area as the primary space for masterclasses, which can accommodate 75 participants plus five to six team members (00:04:51).
• Venue Accessibility and Logistics: Abha Achal and Tenzin Palkyi reported significant accessibility issues, noting that the road to the center is difficult to navigate during the rainy season due to mud and sticky soil. There is no official parking lot, and the location requires a 10 to 15-minute walk from the drop-off point, which will be challenging for participants carrying luggage. The team discussed using flags or banners to mark the path, and Tenzin Palkyi recommended participants bring raincoats and rain boots (00:08:39).
• Shrine Room Usage: The team clarified that the shrine room, which can hold 80 to 85 people, is strictly designated for prayer, chanting, and meditation. Tenzin Palkyi noted that Triatna partners refused to use this space for workshops or masterclasses, citing both the spiritual nature of the room and the logistical difficulty of moving tables and chairs from the dining hall (00:10:40).
• Accommodation and Construction Status: Abha Achal provided an update on accommodations, noting that the dormitories have no air conditioning and lack reliable internet connectivity, which is intended to encourage participants to disconnect. The team accommodation area, which features rooms for two to five people, is currently under construction and is tentatively scheduled for completion by July 1st (00:12:31).
• Environmental and Medical Risks: Abha Achal highlighted environmental risks, including potential snake encounters and poor cellular connectivity. On-site medical support is limited, with basic first aid available and a hospital located 10 kilometers away. The team established that Dr. Jak will serve as the medical backup, and participants must be advised to bring basic medication, torches, and rain gear (00:15:08).
• Transportation to the Retreat Center: The team mapped out travel routes for participants (00:15:08). Options include taking a taxi from the airport (approximately 65 km, costing 1,500 to 2,000) or traveling via train to Malwali railway station, followed by local transport (00:16:22). Personal vehicles can travel via the Mumbai-Pune highway (NH48), using the Bhaji village area as a landmark (00:17:41).
• Program Dates and Capacity: Tenzin Palkyi confirmed the program is a 5-day residential event scheduled from July 15th to July 19th. The retreat has a capacity of 60 beds, excluding the team accommodation under construction. The cost for participants is set between 3,000 and 5,000, with attendance being free for monks and nuns (00:20:26).
• Communication and Coordination: The primary point of contact for logistics will be Dish Dashan sir, who will manage a team of five volunteers from the Triatna group. They will establish a dedicated WhatsApp group for logistics to streamline communication, shifting away from Dr. Gwok as the main point of contact (00:21:28).
• Participant Enrollment and Invitations: Tenzin Palkyi explained that while the exact number is pending, the program will aim for 75 participants. Of these, 20 spots are reserved for special invitations from the Triatna organization, while the remaining participants will be selected through the standard Sharab enrollment process (00:21:28).
• Technical and AV Requirements: Tenzin Palkyi expressed concerns regarding technical setups, noting that Triatna partners were initially resistant to professional equipment standards (00:26:22). It was agreed that they will provide a proper projector stand and a 10x8 foot screen rather than using makeshift curtains. Connectivity will be limited to the dining area, where they plan to install two to three Jio routers to provide network access (00:27:41) (00:31:03).
• Daily Schedule and Programming Conflicts: The schedule includes a mandatory morning routine of meditation and yoga, which led to a disagreement. Tenzin Palkyi advocated for labeling these sessions as optional to allow participants flexibility, but the Triatna partners insisted they remain mandatory, citing spiritual concerns (00:32:46) (00:36:45). The daily schedule includes breakfast at 8:30 a.m., sessions throughout the day, and evening chanting from 8:00 p.m. to 8:40 p.m (00:34:17).
• Meal Logistics: Meals will be served buffet-style on the balcony of the dining hall. Triatna partners stated they cannot provide tables or chairs in the dining area and will instead provide yoga mats for participants to sit on while eating, though plastic chairs can be provided for those who specifically require them (00:38:06).
• Opening Day Schedule (July 15th): The opening session will begin at 6:00 p.m. with a “Buddha Wandana” ceremony, including lighting butter lamps. The evening will feature welcome addresses from both organizations, a coach introduction, and potential keynote video segments from Venerable Dhika and Venerable Ajan Jaru Jaya Su (00:41:46). The day will conclude with an “Aspiration Wall” activity to set goals for the retreat (00:44:09).
• Day One Program (July 16th): The first full day will focus on “Niche and Content,” led by Santosh Gi. Sessions will cover the definition of a “digital bodhisattva,” content formats, and niche identification (00:45:22). The team aims to host Sambaji Bhagat, a folk singer and activist, as a special guest speaker (00:46:41).
• Day Two Program (July 17th): The second day will concentrate on the “Art of Storytelling,” to be led by Yogesh the Bankanker. The program includes potential guest sessions with Tenzin Zindula and Rajesh Karat (00:48:47). Tenzin Palkyi emphasized that all guest speakers must avoid political topics, a condition Dr. Gwok has agreed to respect (00:50:10).
• Final Day Program (July 18th-19th): The final day will cover “AI and Analytics,” featuring topics such as the application of Buddhism in marketing and economics, with a planned session by Atul Bosikar. Sona Meena is also slated to speak on algorithms (00:52:43). The program will close on the morning of July 19th with a session recap, certification distribution, and a video competition winner announcement (00:54:15).
• Cultural and Collaborative Challenges: Tenzin Palkyi reflected on the difficulties of working with the Triatna partners, who frequently dismissed logistical concerns by referencing their “40 years of experience” (00:26:22) (00:56:47). Tenzin Palkyi noted that the partners held a perceived sense of superiority regarding their spiritual practice, which caused friction when discussing the collaborative nature of the masterclass and the necessity of planning for contingencies (00:35:43) (00:56:47).
• Issues with Hosting Partner and Professional Standards: Tenzin Palkyi reports significant friction with the hosting partner, who dismisses professional concerns regarding medical plans, electrical setups, and Wi-Fi by repeatedly citing their 40 years of experience. Tenzin Palkyi notes that when the team asks for specific details, the partner becomes aggressive, which contradicts the team's professional approach to planning for 75 participants (00:59:24).
• Dispute Over Printing Costs: Tenzin Palkyi explains that the partner previously agreed to cover printing materials during discussions regarding the memorandum of understanding, but later retracted this commitment, claiming it was a misunderstanding (01:00:31). Tenzin Palkyi highlights the lack of transparency, noting that although the partner charges participants 5,000 rupees, they remain unwilling to fund necessary event materials (01:01:31).
• Interpersonal Sensitivity and Disagreements: Tenzin Palkyi expresses concern over disparaging comments made by the partners toward team members and the “real makers” convention, which felt insensitive (01:02:43). Additionally, Tenzin Palkyi describes a heated disagreement regarding mandatory morning yoga and evening chanting, maintaining that the master class is intended for content creation and not as a traditional retreat (01:03:42).
• Strategic Perspective on Obstacles: Ngawang Trinley suggests that in dharma projects, profound obstacles often accompany significant impact, indicating that difficulties are signs of progress rather than failure (01:05:42). Ngawang Trinley advises the team to avoid direct confrontation, suggesting that when faced with incorrect beliefs or difficult behavior, it is more effective to let others act and prove themselves wrong through actions rather than debate .
• Philosophy on Buddha Nature and Motivation: Ngawang Trinley emphasizes that everyone possesses Buddha nature and is attempting to find happiness, even if their methods result in conflict (01:11:08). Ngawang Trinley advises the team to maintain a firm stance while helping others realize, through their own actions, that their current approaches may not yield the desired results (01:13:32).
• Speaker Balance and Financial Transparency: Ngawang Trinley recommends balancing the number of speakers to ensure fair representation and insists on total transparency regarding any donations or money collected by the partner, stating that the project should not result in the team subsidizing the partner's potential profit (01:14:32).
• Defining the Master Class Mission: Ngawang Trinley and Tenzin Palkyi reaffirm that the master class is specifically for Buddhist influencers focused on content creation, not a meditation retreat, and this distinction must be clearly communicated to the partner (01:16:58).
• Future Outreach and Team Growth: Tenzin Palkyi plans to visit nunneries starting on the 10th to pitch the master class and discuss specific training needs for the nuns, noting that the team has gained valuable experience to handle upcoming challenges (01:18:04).
• Clarification of Program Goals: Ngawang Trinley stresses that the core mission is to provide five-minute daily content for the general public, focusing on the basics of doing less harm and doing more good, rather than creating advanced courses . Ngawang Trinley advises that every meeting should begin by clearly reiterating this purpose to align expectations with the partner, regardless of their 40 years of experience .
• App Testing and Content Strategy: Ngawang Trinley and Tenzin Tsering discuss the need to focus content on “Tier 3” users—general Buddhists with limited time—rather than scholars or advanced practitioners . They announce daily testing sessions at 10:00 AM and 10:00 PM on Discord, urging non-technical team members to provide feedback on the believability and format of the content .
• App User Metrics: Ngawang Trinley notes that the app currently has 69 daily active users and emphasizes that improving content quality is necessary to increase this number (01:34:44).
• Planning Future Logistics and Meetings: Tenzin Palkyi and Tenzin Noryang agree to finalize the speaker list and coordinate future meetings with the partner, including planning a session to introduce the app to specific tech-savvy collaborators (01:35:34).
• Recognition of Team Performance: Norbu Tsering commends Tenzin Palkyi and the team for their professional conduct and clarity during the recent, difficult interactions with the hosting partner (01:36:20). Norbu Tsering expresses pride in how the team handled themselves, noting that their dedication reflects their character as professional dharma practitioners (01:37:43) (01:40:48).
• Defense of Team Values: Norbu Tsering emphasizes the need for the team to remain firm and unified when interacting with partners, defending their values of dignity, inclusivity, and compassion against any dismissive behavior (01:39:06) (01:41:59).
• Clarification Regarding Participant Fees: Norbu Tsering and Tenzin Palkyi discuss the 5,000 rupee participant fee, with Norbu Tsering noting that the fee lacks justification given that the event is hosted at the partner's own center and does not appear to cover external costs .
• Marketing and Enrollment Strategy: Norbu Tsering, Thrinley Dorje, and Yash Dixit discuss low participant registration, proposing strategies such as leveraging speakers for promotion and running targeted Instagram campaigns with a budget of approximately 500 rupees per day .
• Operational Safety and Logistical Concerns: The team discusses logistical concerns, including the isolated location and potential safety risks for attendees, concluding that they must be more detail-oriented and firm in future planning to ensure professional standards and participant well-being .
• Historical Challenges with Government Collaboration: Norbu Tsering discusses the history of an individual who faced criticism when attempting to launch government-related projects. Although they initially gained support for an e-learning platform from a group that included a doctor and a secretary, they later faced setbacks that complicated their progress (01:57:47).
• Professional Background and Project Feedback: Norbu Tsering explains that the individual is a French national who was raised in a Buddhist center and possesses expertise in Tibetan medicine and language. While attempting to propose a project called Buddhism 8200 to His Holiness, they encountered criticism from a person named Kanti, who questioned their suitability for the work due to their status as an “outsider”. Despite these negative comments, the individual remained committed to their professional practice (01:59:45).
• Impact of Chinese Communist Party Interference: Norbu Tsering notes that the individual was forced to leave a Tibetan institute in Chengdu, China, after their company faced scrutiny from the Chinese Communist Party. Following this, the individual relocated to India and later partnered with a colleague to continue their work, demonstrating significant resilience despite the political and societal challenges they encountered (02:01:34).
• Project Scope and Focus: Yash Dixit and Norbu Tsering confirm that the project’s scope is centered on Tibetan language and Buddhism. They agree that this specific focus serves as the primary distinction for their current work, and they choose to conclude the discussion on this point (02:01:34).

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Meeting Transcript

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Jun 8, 2026

#Masterclass - Triratna Site Visit - Transcript

00:00:00

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Tenzin Noryang: Good morning

Yash Dixit: Hello. Good morning

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Tenzin Noryang: everyone.

Yash Dixit: everyone.

Thrinley Dorje: smell.

drongbu lobsang: Okay.

Thrinley Dorje: That's

drongbu lobsang: When we were in the school, you know, we were in the senior and the jud junior, the the elementary and the class one to five, they came and sometimes they make what? They do like this, you know.

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Tenzin Noryang: 600.

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay.

Thrinley Dorje: Who's

Tenzin Palkyi: All right. I think we need to wait for Gula.

Thrinley Dorje: talking to you again?

drongbu lobsang: Rig join is always busy. He doesn't have time to pick up my phone also for one

Tenzin Palkyi: Yes. So yesterday um on Saturday I had a talk with HR and he said

00:03:00

drongbu lobsang: minute.

Thrinley Dorje: Yep.

Tenzin Palkyi: that Angela is quite busy but uh he'll definitely try to join this meeting.

Tenzin Noryang: Thank

Tenzin Palkyi: It's quite important this one. Anchel, are you there? Hello, Anchel.

Abha Achal: Yes. Ham here.

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay. All right. I hope your internet connection is fine. Okay. I'll just give a call to Gandela.

drongbu lobsang: I'm just

Abha Achal: Yes.

drongbu lobsang: kidding.

Thrinley Dorje: Answer curious.

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay, we had a very important tech meeting. All right. Okay. I think we can go ahead. Uh since everyone's here, I know Amila is also in a tech meeting. So, she said she'll not be able to join, but we'll share the meeting minutes with them. Uh okay. So the last two days um during Friday and then Thursday so we were with uh Triatna people and me and Anchel from our team we went to Triatna place and then we also saw the location of the Sadama Pritim retreat center.

00:04:51

Tenzin Palkyi: So before we start the meeting, I'd like to request Anchel to first give our team a world overview of how the retreat center looks like and what are the what is the location, how to reach over there and also like the integrate details.

Abha Achal: Thank you so much. So is it my screen is like visible for all of

Yash Dixit: Yes, it is a zipper.

Tenzin Palkyi: Yes.

drongbu lobsang: Yes.

Abha Achal: you.

drongbu lobsang: Are you

Abha Achal: So site visit for Sadha Pradesh centered edition center why it's important it's important to let us know about how it's environmental environmental situation is there how like we will going to keep ahead with comfortability and smoothness with our sessions and how we can have a actual real future possibilities over there. So coordination meeting with three net team we discussed about logistic we discussed about roles and we discussed about roles and also guided them how to assess a sherab and how to enroll in course. So dining area space dining area space we will where we will going to have our master class sessions and we can like uh have a sitting arrangement over there 75 people as our participants and uh around five external people like around 80 people 75 for our participants and uh rest five and six for our team members.

00:06:55

Abha Achal: So we can have like a mood session over there and also tea breaks after 15 minutes for a 15 minutes. Okay, sorry guys. This is a dining area view and this is a kitchen area view.

Tenzin Palkyi: Uh, Anel, can you show the video of the dining area once again because we're going to have all the classes over there?

Abha Achal: Is it visible visible for you

Tenzin Palkyi: Yes. Yes. So,

Abha Achal: all?

Tenzin Palkyi: uh last time when we had the conversation with uh tree ratna people,

drongbu lobsang: Yes.

Tenzin Palkyi: so they mentioned that uh they have few potential locations. One is dining area and on top of the dining area there is like a open roof where we can have our food. So they had the idea that that dining area will be used for master class for all the workshop as well as for food which uh I have told them that it's not be possible because the space for eating and the space for learning should be completely separate just because like uh and then they said that uh it'll also be difficult but somehow we have told them that it'll be good if in case we can have the food up uh up on the terrace and then the dining uh dining hall will be specifically for just learning itself and yes, you can continue.

00:08:39

Abha Achal: Thank you so much. So this is a like outer view of like starting point of to reach the grid center. So there are three ports over there. Loagar, bhaji and uh like uh one another port is over there. So there as per landmark there are three ports. depleted center. And this is a road view. So for the rainy season like uh to walk over there it's bit problematic because it will be a very muddy and it's also a farmer land so it will be very sticky soil over there and it's very tiny area to walk for a participants.

Tenzin Palkyi: Uh so to add on this uh when we first went from the parking lot, there's not actually even a parking lot. It's just you have to park your uh cars like randomly in one area. Uh after you go there to the prime location of the retreat center, it's actually very far. We have to walk like at least 10 15 minutes away and the road is also not good and we like to um to combat this we have asked them if in case they can put few flags around or like few banners around so that they'll know like the road to the retreat center is this way but uh with your suitcase and everything the road on top of that when it rains I don't think that it'll be very difficult for the whole team to walk so probably need to bring like like a rain boot

00:10:40

Tenzin Palkyi: or something like that because the road is definitely it's not good.

Abha Achal: These are the short clips. So shrine is in meditation hall where we can have a like time space for to communicate each other for participants and they can have discussions over there and have a good space for to build up conversation with each other. So this is a overview. We can have a sitting like around 80 to 85 people over here. And shrine meditation hall is basically a starship building where people usually do discussion and like meditation and prayers over here.

Tenzin Palkyi: Uh so one thing to add up uh with the shrine so we actually thought that it can be like a very good prime location to have the masterass and even few activities but they're strictly uh not uh they're strictly um not agreeing to have anything in the shrine area rather than just to do the chanting and morning meditation and they said that it will not be possible. U one of the main reason is because it's a shrine for them but second reason is because they'll not be able to carry all the tables from down there to uh from the dining hall to the shrine area.

00:12:31

Abha Achal: So dormatory accommodation it's for basically for our participants where three participants can have accommodated in one room. There is no equip uh there is no equipped uh AC over there. If these rooms are equipped with fans and there is no like uh connectivity more effective connectivity for our phones and for phones and devices. So they usually do it for a keep away from their treated participant to like have a connection to social media. But al along with that um actual connectivity is not there. There is a problem to connect with devices with internet. Team accommodation is under is under cont is under construction where there is a ratio of room for uh five is to four within three rooms three people can accommodate and rest of two rooms two people can accommodate it. Down hall is still in under construction and under under construction means uh lighting up and for setting up doors is not done yet. So basically they will going to uh accommodate over here our team members and also special guests. They probably give a tentative date to complete this work around like 1st of July.

00:13:57

Abha Achal: So this is a overview when rain uh rainfall comes. First image it's a like dining area room is over here and we have only four five hand distance over here.

Tenzin Noryang: Let's

Abha Achal: So there is a pond and it fill like uh it filled with water. This this one is filled with water and this is how situation happen when rain comes. So this kind of a road we will have while rainy season.

Tenzin Palkyi: Yes. So things to add up. Um when we saw the retreat center during that time, it feels like a retreat center itself. On top of that, uh they have told us that it it look much much better during rainy season. uh but uh like few risk and everything it's going to be very difficult for the team to walk and of course for all the participants to walk till there. So this is a photo that uh our one of our trainer have sent just to make just to like uh show us the positive side that how look uh during the monsoon season because we were quite upset with kind of everything that's Fight.

00:15:08

Abha Achal: So site observation and risk consideration. So it's a natural environment offering a peaceful environment like due to surrounding natural landscape there is a no connectivity and a one major possibility is there for a snake bites. So in a retail center we have a basic medical facility and a backup uh as a medical assistant Dr. Jak and rest of like we if any like emergency all of sudden happen and it if it is a big issue so there is we have like 10 kilometer away hospital from the heat center. So it will be kind of rainfall for whole night and for a whole day. So we in center we have only two inverters over there which will give us only four and five years four and five hours backup and participants like to like assist participants we have to inform them to carry torch raincoat and basic medication with them. How to reach Sadhama Pradhi retail center? So it's from a like airport they have to take a it's around 65 kilometer. So at option A they have to take a direct taxi over there.

00:16:22

Abha Achal: It will going to like 1 and a half or 2 hours distance over there. It will cost like 1,500 to 200s. So second budget friendly route is that Samhajinagar Pune railway station. So they can take a train to uh from Pune railway station to Malwali railway station and from Malwali railway station it will going to take 15 to 10 10 to 15 minutes and it will cost around 200 to 300 by train. So from Pune from Pune junction there is upward like uh back back hand there is a 100 m distance for metro station over there. So they can also take a metro and also from Pune junction they can also take train towards Malwali Malwali Pune jun Malwali. Okay. From Pune Junction, they can also take a Malwali junction train. It will going to take around uh one and one or two hours appro 20 to 30 rupees. And after that uh Malwali railway station to Sadhapati bridge train it will going to cost 200 to 300. It will also going to like take time for 10 to 15 minutes.

00:17:41

Abha Achal: The nearest nearest location and a landmark to reach Sadha Pradesh British station via like transportation is Malvari Malwali junction. So it's applicable for a personal vehicle. So per person who will come by their personal vehicle they can take uh their own car and it will going to take like 16 kilometers. go go go ahead with the Mumbai Pune highway old highway NH48 and they can Pune towards like Pune highway it will going to take Lonavala after crossing like Kla Malpi Bhaj caves will show up and Bajik Bhaji village is the landmark to reach Sardha Prahi breakage center. Thank you.

Tenzin Palkyi: All right. Thank you. Okay. So when we think about the location, the few prime areas will be the shrine room that Anel have sent and there are also like different kind of accommodations separate for girls, separate for uh boy uh girls and boys and then there is the dining hall. Under the dining hall, we'll have the uh workshop masterass. On top of that, we'll have uh our uh food and uh catering area.

00:19:09

Tenzin Palkyi: So, just to give an overview, they said that since like uh since like every time that they host a retreat or anything, they don't um they have everything in the dining room itself and then for this discussion and everything, they have it in the shrine room shrine room. So I believe that uh rather than being it like a spiritual reason it's just that they don't want to carry all the tables and chair to the shrine room because we saw like people already having discussion leading uh activities in the shrine room. I just think that they don't want to carry it all to the shrine room that's why they don't want to do it over there. So that is with that one reason. Now I'll share you with all the confirmation and then all the discussion what we have done and what we have decided uh for the uh for the master class and workshop is it visible?

Abha Achal: Yes.

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay.

drongbu lobsang: Yeah.

Tenzin Palkyi: So I have all the discussion as venue and logistic uh daily schedule meals and catering and then contingency and risk is what we have discussed uh with Triadna.

00:20:26

Tenzin Palkyi: So it is going to be a 5-day residential program from 15 of July to 19th of July and they have told us the capacity of the beds uh not including the one that they are making right now which is under construction for the team. It's 60 beds and then check out date should be July 19 which we will finish and we'll also finish right right after we finish our lunch and everything should be the check out time for everyone and I told them for the team we might take like a day or two just to like settle and then also like uh follow up wrap up everything and have like few several meetings they said that our team can stay but then for the rest of the participants you should leave and then for the amount that they are asking for each participants who are going to join is like 3,000 is like the minimum amount and 5,000 is like the maximum amount that they're going to charge for everyone. So they said that rather than asking for 3,000 just ask for like 5,000 directly so that they're going to pay that but for monks and nuns it's going to be free.

00:21:28

Tenzin Palkyi: Uh but I don't think so that there's any monks and nuns coming for this program. And then uh we have asked about the primary contact with who we should contact regarding all the logistics. So right now we have been discussing everything with Dr. Gwok and he wants to like uh shift the responsibility more towards T dash sir. So he said that the main point of contact will be dish dashan sir and the main mode of communication that he said that during the master class and also uh during program planning and everything he said that these daran will bring like five other the volunteers from three ratna team and they're going to create like a separate WhatsApp group for all logistic details and we're going to communicate only with them rather than through Dr. Goka. So decision and action status uh tracker. So we have seen the venue and we have also approved it and we have locked it. And then participant number sometimes it's 60 sometimes it's 75 but for now Dr. has told me that the exact number is not yet finalized but then 75 will be like the number that we're going to offer and then through that 20 people will be invited on like a special case from three ratna people because they were very um firm saying that there are few very very high reward teacher that they don't want to uh enroll in the course sharab course and everything and then we have decided uh into P20 and then the rest will be through

00:22:54

Tenzin Palkyi: sharab enrollment through by taking the course and then doing the selection process and also getting the certificate and uh the 5-day program that I'll also go through right now is also like uh drafted and confirmed during the meeting uh point of contact being teacher and then he'll also bring five to six volunteers. Uh we have also did like a trainer briefing as well and we have also decided that if in case like by any unfortunate reason if one of the trainers have to drop out uh the other trainer will take charge of everything and then because of that both the trainers are going to study uh both the activities and then the program very well if in case anything might have happened and then participate participant invitation since Dr. work is very firm to invite few people. Uh so the list of 20 people that Priata is going to invite he's going to send it by 1st of July and then with travel costs it has been decided that participants are covering their own travel and once they reach the retreat center they're going to pay for the accommodations as well.

00:24:01

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay. Now uh coming to accommodations there uh total 60 beds are there and then uh toilets are usually shared. So in each different blocks they have like two three toilets and we have checked it. It's usually the people who are staying over there they usually keep it very clean. So it's quite clean and the blocks would be different. So for male and female uh participants all of the blocks will be different. And then parking it's it's not available but it's only available if in case you have like a very big car like SUV and like a car something like that that you can be able to like um go through all the road but apart from that if it's like a small car it'll be not feasible and then now coming to the session spaces. So the main session room will be dining room and then they said that the capacity will be like 60 and then even if like the including the team members so they can also sit a little bit outside as well and 60 to 75 people they said they can easily accommodate and then seating is already there chairs and tables are confirmed.

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Tenzin Palkyi: Uh we have looked through all all of it but it like it still feels like a dining room space rather than like how it was during a convention like a round table and then everyone's being able to see it. So it's still like it's of course it's like a dining room space. So it feels like that. And then registration day one uh registration where we set up the desk and everything will be in the dining area itself. And now there are like breakout spaces that we need. So he mentioned about there are few hall uh like the open sta uh space upstairs on the dining hall and then he said that there are also like one hall uh on nearby the accommodation of the uh uh of the building that is currently under construction. So there's also like a hall over there. He said that we can also do that and then meal area will be up on the balcony of the dining room. And then I've said that the internal debrief between the V Buddhist team members as well as three Ratna members where we'll we're going to have like a debrief meeting every day and he said that there's like a hut like a teacher's house uh over there and we can have the meeting there or else we can have it the meeting in the accommodation area itself for the team which is currently under construction.

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Tenzin Palkyi: Now EV and technical details. Uh so one of the uh like one of the few things that has come across while having several discussion with Ratna people is that uh there were several times that they have mentioned that uh rather than focusing on all of this is that they have been doing this for 40 years. So we don't they they're just brushing it off that we don't need to worry about it. not giving us concrete answer and saying that like like like me and Anchel like like like they were born before like they were doing all of this before we were even born. So like the tone and the aggression and then uh how they were handling it. It was um I'm actually quite very surprised about how they were very they were quite being dismissive about everything and when we bring up bring up topics such as like with logistics and then emergencies contingencies plan they were just doing that nothing has happened over the last 40 years. So why are we even worried right now? So when it comes to the projector and screen uh first they were saying that they're going to put a curtain behind white curtain which is going to be like a backdrop and then uh we had several and fro discussion that I told them that it's definitely not professional and as as

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Tenzin Palkyi: our company who is like actually doing the whole program details uh this is also not going to look good for our company and also since this is like the first masterass it also not be like a good example for the next ones that we're going to have and uh we had like a several two and fro discussion and then they said that they're going to have like a proper stand and then proper screen that they're going to have rather than just a white curtain or like a white uh bed sheet and then they're also going to have like a standies uh for both the uh so there's going to be like a proper backdrop and then two standies like this and then for the Wi-Fi area they said that it will not be possible if in case they can have it in different location. So the only location that they're going to have it is in the uh in the dining hall area. So they said that he knows few uh people who are working in Jio said who said that they're going to help us.

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Tenzin Palkyi: So they're going to put at least two to three Jio routers uh in the dining area. So I think like during the master class sessions and everything like the dining area will be like the only kind of area where where you'll have like a good network and it also depends on which SIM card that you're using and then power uh backup power and generator uh it is there and as Anchel have mentioned but it only if in case something any uh there's like a light uh power off or something like that the generator will only work for like 3 to four hours and it's only available in the dining hall and not in any other uh locations uh in the retreat center and then uh technical point of contact we have also got a person who is going to help us with in case anything happens so he's a person three members called sumit and he is going to handle all the technical issues so another thing when it comes to projector um we have had like for example I remember having this one event where we said that we're going do it through projector.

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Tenzin Palkyi: But when it comes to projector, if it's not like up on the if it's not hanging up there on the wall, like if we do it from downstairs, the projector is like going to come straight on the present presentator's face and it's going to not look good at all. But when we try to have like these type of uh conversation that is definitely going to come up later on or during the last moment they just dismiss it saying that you know Santoi who's one of our trainer uh he's going to handle it all and why are we even worried so they were like they were not ready to have any kind of like discussion or like like any they were just being very dismissive saying that you know like nothing to worry about nothing to worry about we have been in this profession for 40 years. Uh so why are you even worrying about so this is this has been like the issue with logistics and emergency and medical again um like the nearest medical facility is like 10 kilometers away and onsite medical contact is Dr. Gok he told me that he's like after several conversation he finally agreed that he can be like the first point of contact and then they said that first aid kit will be available on site and he also said that there are other few there might be some other few physician who might come for

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Tenzin Palkyi: the retreat center uh for the learning. So he said that these people can also help but again like 40 years nothing has happened so nothing will happen like that and volunteer support so number of tree ratna volunteers there'll be five to six people across all five days and their main responsibility will be like meals accommodation and a participant support if in case there's any and ground bound of contact will be taken so this is for the venue and logistics and for the projector they have told us that they're going to use like Epson one which is like uh and then also like a 10 uh 10 into 8 ft screen with a proper stand. All right. So coming to the program details now this also we had like several conversation we're going back and fro with Vana.

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Tenzin Palkyi: So earlier during the conversation we had uh because of people's like short attention span and we also wanted to give everyone space to like be able to concentrate as well also uh be able to uh network as well. So for them uh so during convention our schedule 45 minutes 45 minutes of class and then 15 minutes of living learning uh I think there's someone okay 45 minutes of class and then 15 minutes of networking uh but then they mentioned that during uh morning session they want to do uh meditation and in the meditation uh it is going to be like um 20 minutes of chikong, 20 minutes of anapana sati,

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Tenzin Palkyi: 20 minutes of working meditation and 20 minutes of metabana. So this whole thing with the with the meditation and then yoga we had like several conversation whether to even write it optional or not. So I am of the opinion that the whole place itself it gives like a whole retreat like a retreat center feeling itself and now on top of that adding this meditation session first they said that they don't even want it to be as optional they want everyone to like be a part of the meditation and then the yoga session and then they said they will do it at the uh shrine room. So they wanted to keep it uh they want everyone to join it but then uh I've told them that uh we also need space there might be some people who have only come for this content creation workshop so not everyone might be interested and then they said that writing optional is uh sounds very um disgraceful for their spiritual journey like for their spirituality. So they they are currently like they asked me and Anchel to not write optional at all and if people wants to join they will join and then 8:30 to 9:30 will be uh breakfast session at balcony and then from 10 to 11:15 will be like the first morning session in the dining room and then we'll have like half an hour tea break session uh probably in the balcony or like any breakout area and then 11:45 to another 1:00 p.m.

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Tenzin Palkyi: will have like the session another session and then from 1 to 2:30 we have lunch break. So lunch break is for like 1 and a half hour and then from 2:30 to 3:45 we'll have another tea break and then from 4:15 to uh 5 uh another 1 and 1/2 hour we'll have the session again and then they said that from 7:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. we're going to have the dinner and again now they want to include like a chanting ritual like 8 to 8:40 uh which we also told them now uh when it comes to chanting they like they got quite aggressive uh with their answers saying that uh like chanting is a very important thing and if in case they are Buddhist creators they should be able to like follow all the Buddhist rituals and of course like if you look at the schedule it's a very packed schedule at all and it's now as we look at the program details there are also few special guests who are going to come and speak this is also new we only got to know when we went there and it's going to be like a theory it's going to be theory as well as like more of a practical session but the schedule is packed overall and now to include start the day from meditation from the morning and then from 8 like 40 minutes of chanting I I like I'm of the opinion that this is this this program is ours and when we when I try to have this

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Tenzin Palkyi: conversation that like when we first started this collaboration it was only that program will be taken care by us and the logistic will be taken care by tree ratna and they said that no no no this is definitely not right chanting is a very big part of like Buddhism and uh and one like this demeaning thing that they have said about we Buddhist is that when we had this convention during um and both guy everyone was just a real maker. They don't know anything about Buddhism. It's just that now we are going to teach them what Buddhism actually is and what the ritual we should follow. So uh like this conversation like this sentence itself that the convention was only for realm maker was set like two times and when he said it like during the second time I just told him that it's very demeaning like Our convention was not something that is just only for the real makers. Al although like real making is such um an integrated part of social media right now. This is how social media is moving forward.

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Tenzin Palkyi: But then only um giving it to real making and then people not only knowing like a surface level of Buddhism like uh it felt very demeaning for we Buddhists but this is like kind of like conversation that or even like the idea that they were having towards us and um I understand if he said it one time as like a joke but he said it like several times. So yes and then they also want to have like an optional movie night. So this is like the program that uh that is there and if in case like I want like uh I'm quite I'm still quite firm with writing just optional if optional seems like such a bad word we can also offer something else. Uh but just writing it over there and making it part of the program that seems very rough. I feel like everyone should have like the space to explore to reflect what they have learned over the whole day and then they also are of the opinion that after like we finish the program like the class since there's like caves around we'll walk to the caves and we'll chant over there but uh um but for now we have told them that it's going to be very difficult but then they're saying that people who are interested will join So, but I'm still of the opinion to write the optional over there.

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Tenzin Palkyi: And now meals and catering confirm details. Now, breakfast will be from 8:30 to 9:30 and it's going to be like a pure vegetarian dish over there. or boha will be there or like very light breakfast itself and then tea break there'll be tea and then few like biscuits and then lunch uh will be subji rice dal roti and like a little bit of salad and then tea break again and then dinner is like very same vegetarian roti subji rice dal like this is like the schedule uh and then on top of that if in case like uh there are few people who have who have like allergies uh this that kitchen will accommodate it's just that we need to confirm with them in advance and then all meals served on the balcony. Now coming to the meal area uh up on the balcony uh they will not they'll they said that they'll not be able to put up any chairs or table and if in case someone really needs it they'll put some plastic chairs over there up there in the balcony.

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Tenzin Palkyi: So they said that they'll put uh mats like yoga mats around there and then uh like the food will be like uh like a buffet system. People will get it and then they'll just sit on the on the map mat and then they're going to eat it because they'll not be able to provide anything else except for the plastic chairs. So this is one thing and now coming to the contingency and risk. Now uh few risks that we have locked for example a trainer dropped out at last minute uh we have mentioned that a single trainer will adjust and cover all session independently and if in case there are technical failures during the venue itself sumit uh he they confirmed and reconfirmed saying that he's a designated technical lead and he's going to handle all AV and tech issues and medical emergency Dr. Chuck will be like the primary point of contact and then nearest medical facilities like 10 kilometers away and we also need to include like how um how far we have to walk as well and then if in case there's like a power outreach then generator backup is available but it's only going to cover the dining hall and Wi-Fi uh three geo routers will be available and then if in case we have any problem summit will be there to resolve for uh escalate to the technical resolution.

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Tenzin Palkyi: I think Gandela has joined now. Hello Gandela. Oh. So you have missed quite a thing. Okay. So we were just going through like the venue logistic and then daily schedule mutes and catering contingency and risk uh and then like the whole overview. Now let's go with the program details about what has been discussed with them. Okay. So, one good thing that we were able to finalize all the program details as uh and also keep a balance between our course uh what we have uh put up during the uh in sharup course as well as like also come in a balance between what they prefer as well. So coming to the program details. Okay. So 15th of July will be the arrival day for everyone and we're going to start the registration from 10:00 a.m. to 5 uh 5 uh where we're going to have like selected participants. We're going to all of them are going to register. We'll also give them tea and then we'll also give them a lot of space and then from 6:00 p.m.

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Tenzin Palkyi: to 7 7:30 we're going to have like the opening day and then let's come to the opening session. Opening session will be on the 15th July itself and we're going to start the session from 6:00 p.m. So 6 to 6 10 uh 610 10 minutes will be for Buddha wandana where they usually rata they first light the diia and then they do like an opening chant and we'll also set us a moment of silence and during that time uh one MC will be there one tree ratna representative will be there and one from vhist and from their side we have also finalized the person so Dr. J is going to do like the light the butter lamb and everyone and we have to decide someone from our side and from 6:10 to 6:25 15 minutes we'll do like a welcome address and then also like why this moment matters and then also like a brief introduction between all both the uh both the organization. So 15 minutes for uh V Buddhist uh 7.5 minutes for V Buddhist and then 7.5 minutes for tree ratna as well and u for the v uh from the tree ratna side Dr. Gwork is going to give the welcome speech and then coming to the coach introduction 625 to 6:35 coach introduction coach give introductions of themselves and then they said that from they also have like few keynotes three speakers uh one is venerable Dhika from Australia and then venerable Ajan Jaru.

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Tenzin Palkyi: So both of them like we know that they are very good content creators right now and they are very famous as well especially venerable Ajan Jaru Jaya Su is like very famous he's a Thailand monk so Dr. said that he can get videos of two of these content creators as well as dharma teachers and he's going to show it to them and then this is like for 5 minutes 5 minutes and then we have like the Buddhist creators convention speaker testimonial. So currently Yash is in conversation with Kinta Pimala and we are checking whether his schedule will confirm or not and if it does so we're going to have him speak for like 10 minutes so that it'll also set the tone as well as also become like a representative on top of that he's um um Buddhist influencer of the year and then that's why we want him to give us space as well as also give him the opportunity to experience and give him the uh opportunity to talk as well and now the uh 64 55 to Another 10 minutes is like the master class promise.

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Tenzin Palkyi: So what participants will walk away with because Mi Buddhist is taking care main care of the program details. So we're going to talk about what the five days will feel like or what is expected out of them. And then what would you create if you knew that you you if you knew it would reach a thousand people. It's just like like a prompt and one of our team member will speak about the masterclass promise and 7.5 to 7:30 25 minutes we have like the aspiration wall. So coming to the aspiration wall it's just like a small card and then it'll have like uh both vuddes and free ratna logo and we'll write prompts on it. I am here because dash this week I want to learn dash and by the end of this master class I will dash. So this is just like to set the tone for everyone and all the participants and um we want like the aspiration wall last time when we did it in convention it was like uh we did it on a chart and we like let people stick on it but this time I'm thinking if in case we can have like a bulletin board uh something that we can stick easily I think that'll look much much more professional as well as uh if we write the prom it'll also uh give access to the participants

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Tenzin Palkyi: to write easier um answers. Okay. Now coming to the first day which is on niche and content. Now this again meditation session optional from 7:15 they want to start the meditation session as well as yoga session every morning that three is going to lead this will be optional and then from 8:30 to 9:30 will be breakfast and then 9:30 to 10:00 a.m. will be like a buffer time for participant to settle and we're going to start the class from 10:00 a.m. every day. So as I've mentioned it's not going to be like 45 minutes, it's just going to be like 1 hour and 15 minutes straight. So looking at the topic the first topic like on niche and content will be uh lead by Santo Santo G and then the first session will be uh the digital bodhic satwa and understanding the format. So Santosh come from like he's uh he is a director itself and he said that he'll be able to like lead lead first is like what it means to be a digital bodhic satwa and why sharing the dharma online matters and then they'll also re receive like activity sheets that they're working on right now and then it'll be like minimal theory but then most important thing on the first day is like he's going to talk about uh content formats like short video long form written audio and he's also going to give

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Tenzin Palkyi: them active activities about it and this is like the first session and then we're going to have like a networking break like break of half an hour and then we're and then we're going to uh reach out to like understanding niche and then niche activity and then why narrowing down makes your content stronger. So like dur when I meet Santo he seems like he is a very humble teacher and he already had like a good idea on understanding niches and he said since he's already like working in film production and everything um we believe that he'll do it he'll lead the session very well and he understands the importance of finding the right niche and then we have a lunch break gap in between and then we have like the first special guest speaker. So when I went down to meet three Ratna people they said that they don't they they want to build this relationship uh through V Bu Buddhist where uh they want to have the master class as well as well as also invite special guest speakers as well from outside. So the first guest speaker that they want to have is Sambaji Bakut.

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Tenzin Palkyi: Uh so a little bit about Sambaji Bakut. Sambaji Bakut is like a folk singer and he's also a poet. He's a playwright and most importantly is he's like a activist from Maharashtra and uh he's very good with B like folk B right uh like singing. So Sambaji Bhagat he told me like since he has already found his niche in folklore. So that's why Sambaji Bhagat he wants to have as one of the speaker and also lead the session called how to find your niche and he's going to lead the session and he told me that sambaji bakers have a very um how do I say like a very um like a likable character and he'll be able to set the tone on the first day very well and then we have the break session uh for half an hour and then uh Santoi is going to lead a session on script writing cinematography lighting compos composition, color theory, and color psychology as well. And we're going to delete all of this through activities. And 5:30 we're going to finish the uh our class.

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Tenzin Palkyi: And then 5:30 to 6 p.m. we're going to have like a internal team meeting um between what was worked, what needs adjusting for tomorrow. And then we also need to assign testimonial slots for D2 because in between all of that we need like our social media team to get proper coverage on all the testimonial and making sure that we prepare all the repl before ahead. Now coming to the day two which is on 17th of July. Now again with the same schedule with 75 7:15 and then I'm just going to jump straight onto 10. Now first one is art of storytelling. Now this one will be led by Yogesh the bankanker and uh coaches introduced this art of storytelling importance of style power resonance and rel relatability and they're also going to give activity sheets for everyone and yog is going to take care of this one and then we're going to have like a networking break. So Dr. Giwork is very close with Tinsu Zundula Tinsu Zunda who is very famously known as a Tibetan activist and he said that he wants to invite Tinja Zindula for as one of the speaker for this one and because of this he said that Tenisula can lead the art of storytelling because he's already a storyteller and he's an activist but then with all the guest speaker I know I'll get back to this later on I have made it very firm that all these speakers that I'm going to introduce now from from now they come

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Tenzin Palkyi: from a they they All of them are activist. So we have to be very very firm that they are not going to talk about any political of course like this is a Tibetan and leading up like Tibetan political issue is also politics in one sense. So but then Dr. J reconfirmed saying that they're not going to talk anything about politics. It's just that they're going to going to come and talk about what they specialize in. So he said that I can lead one session on art of storytelling itself and we have our lunch break and now coming to uh second one which is Rajes Karat. So talking a little bit about Rajes Karat. So he is a former chairperson of the South Asian studies at the school of international studies JNU and he also founded uh one of the most distinct uh studies in JNU called center for south a Asian studies and um he also served as the chief advisor of educational opportunities uh office and then he was a dean of humanities uh at the University of Mumbai from 2019 to 2022 he was a dean and now he is currently u uh working as the board of studies for civics and politicals at Maharashtra state education board and he uh Dr. said that we still need to finalize about what topic that we're going to give it to him.

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Tenzin Palkyi: But since he's a very reward teacher, he wants to keep it uh keep him in the second day itself. And he said that uh since he comes from like a very political background but he said that uh he also he's also very knowledgeable about how to spread Buddhism uh through the use of medium of politics and then also since he was the dean of humanities he also knows how to speak and market it very well. So he wants Rajesh Kar to have one session but we we were not able to finalize what topic he's going to teach and I also told like all these guest speakers I need to also reconfirm with my team and then also to talk with my team as well and then we have like a break in between and then we have uh hookw writing activity and then how to define your activity how to find your activity uh audience most importantly is empathy mapping. So and then after that we have like a internal team meeting dinner and then this optional chanting. Coming to final day which is on day 18 uh everything is about AI and analytics.

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Tenzin Palkyi: Now again same session and from 10:00 a.m. we're going to start application of Buddhism in marketing and economics. Now he brought out another guest speaker which is Adul Bosikar. So Adul Bosikar is uh is a physics graduate and also a marketing professional and he said that our Adul Bosikar can do very well and Adul Bosikar has already recently gave a presentation on uh on application of Buddhism in marketing and economics. Uh and because of that he said the uh what was he said he said his uh talk and what he the speech that he gave was so powerful that it left a lasting impression on everyone. That's why he wanted to call Adul Bosikar again and then uh another break session and and then uh we'll start with Yogesh class which is like why AI mentors and then for dharma practitioners and then educating the AI and confidence school and then Yogesh is going to lead a session on all of this and then we're going to have like a networking and another guest speaker called Sona means so Sona means is actually like the teacher currently in JNU and uh she's a teacher uh she's currently a professor at the school of computer and system science at JNU right now and she's from Maharashtra and she said he said that he she since she's already like uh working very much with computer she knows everything about algorithm so Dr. Jim said that he will be very good with algorithm and he he wants her to be one of the

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Tenzin Palkyi: speaker uh for this one and then we have break in between and then Yogesh again while where he'll do like those uh just as Milan have did with like um introducing four to five uh tools and how to content plan content with AI and then most importantly he's also going to lead like a 30 minute session on prom writing and then also AI tools in creation of videos. So this is like the 3-day program and uh since they have also introduced like many uh guest speakers as well and I'll also tell you like what their plan is what Sri Ratna is planning to do after they finish the V Buddhist after they finish the um they finish the master class as well. So now coming on the second day like final final day it's like this it's still the same uh it's like closing day will be like till afternoon uh 10:00 a.m. uh we'll do like a session recap by both the coaches of everything we did toward in the last uh 3 days and then again like a break session and then uh we'll have like a final acknowledgement.

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Tenzin Palkyi: uh we'll have like five minutes of t dash and five minutes I didn't know how to who to write because that's why I just wrote a's name giving like an acknowledgement speech and then we'll also do like a certification distribution and uh we were thinking that since we going to introduce uh video and then content creation so if in case like just to um bring like a more energy and zeal to the session uh we can do like a video uh winner competition that we're going be introduced on the first day and then Yogesh and then um Santo Gi is going to like uh check the videos and then we are going to introduce the winner just this video competition that we're going to do and introduce it and then we're going to have the lunch break and then this is like the end of the program. So this is what we have discussed. Now coming back to what uh Triagna is planning to do. So Dr. like only recently when I was speaking to him he told me that he has plan to open up a studio in uh Pune itself and this master class will be like a stepping stone for them because after this master class because they're going to introduce so many um big names of course when we look at the special guests they're not just like normal special guests as well they come from very uh influential backgrounds so he said that uh they are planning to open a studio

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Tenzin Palkyi: like a three studio and then the these influential person are going to like uh pack do backup for him and then also assist him for his for their future projects. So this is what we have discussed. Uh now coming to the I hope it was not too long because I still need to take five minutes more. Uh now coming to like uh like a few observation things that I have done towards like the last two days. Uh I know like we're only just like five to six weeks away from like the whole event. But uh just to let everyone know about like uh the way of their understanding and the way they think it's quite very different from how we work as well. And one thing that um I have noticed is that uh this they're very um like the the way of saying that they have 40 years of experience, I feel like this conversation will continue throughout like until we finish the master class. So with um if in case we come across any problem or like if in case there are any issues that they might that it might pop out during the uh master class, we just always have to keep in consideration that uh like they have this ideology and then they also have this ideology that uh like dhamai right for them they are like dhachari and uh they have this idea about uh that dhamai is quite superior.

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Tenzin Palkyi: I have noticed that and like they have told me several times like you know it was so easy for you for you like for your Buddhist nuns and monks to just become Buddhist and it's so easy for you to you just only need to find a guru who will who will shave your head and it's it but for us Dhachari it was it's we take years and years of practice like they told me this several times so they have this ideology where they don't um it's a very sticky thing but uh they have this ideology ology that they are quite a little bit superior. So this one and know first just with the good stuff we just did the venue walk through of everything. The space is confirmed bed is also confirmed and we have also found we have also got to know that dish dashans is going to be like the ground contact. Most important thing is that we have gone through the program details and then they are kind of happy with how we balance both the program details with our site as well as like tree ratner site and um I just want to there are just few things that I I feel like I should flag uh so that everyone's like quite informed about everything.

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Tenzin Palkyi: uh now like as I've already told before like when we ask for specific things like what is like the medical plans what is like the EV setup because like like the work that we do we already I I already know that we do like a very professional job when it comes to like proper properly planning everything like how many routers for Wi-Fi the the response is always usually something like don't worry about it we have been doing it for 40 years nothing has ever happened and of course again this thing about like we have been here before like you guys were even born which I understand like they they they said it to me like several times and I know like I can understand their confidence but like I am also I am also since I'm taking charge of this one but I also have a responsibility to the 75 people and um when I started asking them question they become aggressive which which I didn't expect from a dhamaari which was also like a little it was like a little sticky situation and of course I have to be cordial as well as also put our view with this expectations beforehand as well.

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Tenzin Palkyi: Now the most important thing which I was uh like quite surprised was with the printing cost. So earlier um they had issues with Rahul. We all of us know that they don't want Rahul Domi as one of the potential trainer even after briefing even like after we finalized everything and on the final call they said that they don't want Rahul and when I was having this conversation with Dr. Jbuk and we were also at a point where memorandum of understanding was about to be signed Dr. Gag I also have that transcribe he told me I told him that we have a little bit of budget issue and we will appreciate if in case like Ratana can take care of the printing uh materials and during that time since they also didn't want Rahul to be part of the trainer so they were also trying to act like a little agile way so that we can also work with them during that time they said that they're going to take care of the printing materials and after that conversation I have spoke with Chan and Ajad Noyam saying that they're going to take care of the printing materials.

01:01:31

Tenzin Palkyi: But when we went there, when we had this conversation with them, Dr. G were completely backed off and said that I never said that. I never said that I'm going to take care of the printing materials which I was very surprised and I told them that all our meeting minutes are being transcribed. We have the records and I pulled out the records and I showed him that you have said this. He told me that you have taken it in a wrong way. When I said that, I have told them that I will assist you only not I will I will print it out. And I told Dr. schedule that you're charging people 5,000 rupees and we saw the location what more people are people are covering their own cost and coming people are paying on top of that what more cost like is is having and he became very aggressive when we had this conversation and he was like no no I never said that it might be a misunderstanding from you and the worst part was is it's just me and Anchel during that time right and there were like many tree ratna members so they start keep on like one after one They started telling us stuff and I told them like this I told them that this is definitely something that I should talk with the administration regarding this one because they have actually agreed to it earlier and now they're saying that it's just like a misunderstanding.

01:02:43

Tenzin Palkyi: I never said that. I just told them that I can assist you on this because Ratna is already covering everything. What is we Buddhist even spending? So this is what happened and then like some comments didn't feel right and like it's a little sensitive for us. I don't know whether everyone will feel like that because there were few comments that I feel like everyone should be aware of like because our convention was just referred to us like this the convention you guys had in Budgaya was only for real makers and then it was not only said once but it was said several times and then of course like they were there were also comments saying that um there were also comments that was directly redirect directly said to like our colleague by naming them and straight to the face and I don't want to get all into this nitty-gritty things but then it was a very sensitive issues for all of us and I just I just and I feel like uh it might continue as well uh when we go down as well.

01:03:42

Tenzin Palkyi: So we just I'm just letting flagging it so that our team will be prepared so that when things like that happen we just know how to remain strong uh with backhanded com like backhanded comments and then also with the chanting and yoga situation this became like a very heated discussion between all of us. So they wanted to do morning yoga, evening chanting, cave visits and then cave visits with chanting. So I told them like um like my position over like all this chanting and meditation is that I want to keep it optional and writing it optional is not such a big deal because people who are coming for this con who signed up for this master class is that they come for a creators convention master class and like the whole retreat center it gives like a very retreat environment which is which can be like a amazing like a very positive impact for the brain and also for everyone but they have not come for a retreat they have come for like a content creation workshop. This is what this is our goal is not for them to like do like a retreat.

01:04:43

Tenzin Palkyi: And when I said that, of course, like he said, Dr. Jas said that we are teaching what real Buddhism is. We're teaching chanting and then meditation, not real making. We're teaching them what real Buddhism is. And then I want everyone to have their personal space, their personal time. of course like the whole day is packed and not not make it mandatory for them to like after dinner for them to go and then chant for like 40 minutes. If they do then great if anyone's up for it that's great but I I feel like we should be very we should keep it optional. So that became like a very heated talk like conversation between me and Dr. work and um I just realized that it's so important that we stay firm with the decisions and then we also stay in firm with what our organization is opting for as well. So these are like the few things that I have faced and like few things that I want to flag to my whole team so that everyone will be very uh cautious with what we move ahead with.

01:05:42

Tenzin Palkyi: So yes, I think that is like the whole presentation today with everything.

Ngawang Trinley: Okay, thanks a lot.

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay.

Ngawang Trinley: So, uh yeah, I've been following not not I mean following what you guys are doing and getting you know feedback from here and there but I haven't been you know following all the details of uh you know what's happening. I just hear that you know everything is going well and that you guys are doing great job. So uh I I don't uh you know feel that I need to interfere or uh you know be there that much. And so yeah first I I want to thank you all of you you know for putting so much effort and you know making this moving uh so well. Yeah. Um yes so I have a few comments. So yeah, I've been I'm aware of you know the tensions that happened in the past few days and I yeah so I mean the first thing that came to my mind and it's also you know from experience but there's this uh Tibetan or Buddhist you know saying did you hear that before?

01:06:58

Ngawang Trinley: No. Okay. So in Tibetan it means like where the dharma is profound the obstacles are are also very profound. Yeah. So and that's I mean in my personal um you know life I mean uh you know working on different you know dharma project each time you know we're doing something that actually you know has a real impact each time I observed also that actually this really holds and that you know there's always some you know really big obstacles etc. uh and then after you know the result of what we're doing is actually you know very big and I mean so much that even you know whenever I see that you know I don't know there there's like you know some big fights or you know this kind of things etc always I'm I'm like oh that's good you know that's a good sign that something good is coming is going to come out of it. Yeah. So that that that's maybe not a very intuitive way of looking at things but for from my experience you know that always has been true.

01:07:58

Ngawang Trinley: Uh yeah, so that I think that's something that uh is good to keep in mind. And um yeah, so in terms of like you know working with people uh I also you know especially in my younger years I would say I I was always like you know very confr confrontational and trying to really like uh impose you know my views on things which of course is the right view on things you know to other people and most of the time it doesn't really work that well and uh what really works well is just like you know Actually when you see someone like you know saying something completely wrong or having an attitude that's completely wrong just actually let them be let them do it. Yeah. And prove them wrong through actions. I Yeah. I I actually learned this from one of my teachers. I remember it's like very stupid anecdote. you know, we were having a, you know, cafe, a tea in Damsala just before going to see his nice and Yeah, there was this uh Tibetan So there's the since you're you're talking about Tibetan activists, there's this, you know, with long beard.

01:09:10

Ngawang Trinley: Yeah. And there's another guy with long beard is again, you know, the historian uh what was his name? They look a little bit similar. Yeah. And so this llama I was having tea with uh anyway uh so he knows them very well and I actually we were talking about one I mixed up with the other one and I was like you know looking at uh you know the table and say oh yeah this is this guy the activist etc. But actually it was the historian and he just like you know went with it. He just told me oh yeah yeah this and that etc. And just after the conversation finished, I realized actually it was the wrong person and I never forget never mixed up you know again. Yeah. So he could have just corrected me you know and told me oh this is the wrong person but instead just let me you know go with it and let me actually find myself you know that I mean realize myself that you know this was a a wrong uh you know that it was a mistake.

01:10:08

Ngawang Trinley: I mean it's very simple anecdotes but basically just this thing really had a huge impact on how I relate with people you know later on. Yeah. So I starting so I think like you know if we meet with people who you know have like you know weird attitudes or like completely wrong beliefs or whatever let them actually go with it or even like you know amplify a little bit uh you know what they're doing. So instead of just like you know ignoring it, he actually amplified it by say you know asking me more and making me tell more things about the wrong person right and so when I realized you know how wrong I was you know it was even stronger than if I just like you know had say this um that's it and then basically you know let people realize you know by themselves uh you know that it's a a wrong belief or whatever. Yeah. So I mean that's just like you know my personal way of you know dealing with things and always of course remember that I you know I mean that's the from the Buddhist perspective.

01:11:08

Ngawang Trinley: So every one of us we have the Buddha nature. Every one of us I mean if we think about you know ourselves since the day we were born until now. Can we you know each of you can you think of one single thought one single action you did that was motivated by creating more suffering to ourselves or to others? Uh uh did you have like a single you know action or single thought that was like to create more suffering more negativity? uh uh you know looking at back at myself of course I did things that created suffering each time it was believing that it was going they're doing something good right and I think this stands you know for you know small ants running all day you know they're trying to get something better something good more happiness right this even stands you know for midung or even Hitler if you really look at you know within their own beliefs so they are completely wrong there there's no doubt about it but within their mind they were trying to do something better etc. Yeah.

01:12:12

Ngawang Trinley: So if this is true for maong and Hitler, of course it's going to be true with you know all the people who are involved uh in our day-to-day life, right? Uh so I think it's really important to remember that you know the basic motivation and this is the whole point of like you know Buddha nature this is what Buddha nature is. We we can see it uh you know in ourselves we can you know find it in others too, right? Uh and it's just like you know we're you know sometimes we we I mean we don't know how to uh you know do do good for ourselves and others and you know what we think is the right way to do you know to get make things better bring more happiness clashes with other people's uh you know beliefs on what is uh you know the right way to do good things etc and that creates a lot of suffering and a lot of like trouble etc right so I think Yet really important to remember that you know ourselves and others you know we are all trying to uh get more happiness more positivity better things right okay so based on this then I you know just try to make sure that you know in different situations like you know just telling people you know the way you think is wrong what you're doing is wrong that's not how you know you can get happiness etc this most of the time doesn't work you

01:13:32

Ngawang Trinley: know and for ourselves you know people lecture us and we don't want to listen to what people you know have to say right we know better than than them right I mean I definitely believe that uh you know myself although later on I usually you know half of the time I was wrong but yeah that's another story uh that's it so I I think it's very important to keep this in mind and you know just like uh help people to realize you know that uh you know their um approach uh to bring more good and happiness to the you know sometimes is not right. Uh help them to realize that through action. I think that's the the most important. Okay. Uh so this is just like uh yeah based on the the past few days you know issues and yeah I think if we can do uh yeah if we can all like you know put this into practice I think it's going to help a lot uh you know not to get into uh you know more uh aggressivity and you know like create more like no trouble suffering etc. Okay.

01:14:32

Ngawang Trinley: So that that's one point I really wanted to uh to bring you in on the table. I hope this helps. Uh okay. So in terms of the speakers uh actually I would like to review them you know one time and I have a few suggestions also from our side. I think it's important that you know the number of speakers is balanced. We have like you know contributors from uh you know right now but also we want to have like you know good contributors you know from our side. it seemed to be a little bit too heavy on you know tree right now from what I saw. Uh so yeah maybe later today or tomorrow if we can you know spend some time and you know go through this. Uh anyway so yeah that's a a conversation we can have later and uh yeah in terms of like you know the you know all the financial aspect etc. So I did uh uh you know have a discussion about it with Dr. And so I think would be good to have another discussion and I want to make sure that I yeah I told him that the only condition in which we would collaborate in on this is that all the financial things are completely transparent and so any money that they collect from people any

01:15:43

Ngawang Trinley: donation they collect you know should be transparent and we want you know like the donations to be you know we are all like you know probably at the end of the the convention we both parties will you know have spent money. It's not a money-m, you know, event, but it has to be fair. It has to be, you know, you know, split between both organizations evenly. Yeah. And so early he did uh you know say he agreed and you know that there's no problem there but I really want to you know make sure that you know this happens. I don't want like you know that we spend money to help them to make money on something or whatever. This is really not what uh you know the whole thing is about right. Uh that's it. So yeah uh Balky maybe if you can you know schedule another call on this I yeah the if there are problems I mean you guys probably also have experience it's already always like you know uh someone is making money out of you know the other things the other starts feels like you know exploited um you know with the situation etc. So I think it's really important to make it you know as clean as possible on that level right um yeah so I I think these are the the main points I wanted

01:16:58

Ngawang Trinley: to uh yeah to mention so yeah for the speakers definitely we should have more speakers from our side yeah I Yeah. Otherwise, we're just like, you know, helping, you know, them to organize their own event and, you know, why are we even doing this? Yeah. Uh, that's it. And with with the I agree with you that, you know, we should really make clear that, you know, this workshop is for content creation, is for uh, you know, Buddhist influencers. Uh, and so it is not like, you know, Buddhist uh, meditation retreat or class or whatever. Uh and so yeah, I think a little bit is fine, but we shouldn't, you know, this really shouldn't be the focus of the event. Yeah. And they they can organize, you know, meditation uh classes and retreats, you know, anytime they want, right? Uh so so I think yeah, uh I think you were very right to take a stand firm uh you know, regarding this regarding that. Yeah. Uh that's it. Yeah. So is there anything else?

01:18:04

Ngawang Trinley: Oh yeah, one thing I want also to congratulate uh yes mustache. I very beautiful mustache. Okay, anything else? By one, two.

Tenzin Palkyi: Um I I feel like this uh first collaboration that we did with Freatna is also like if in case we look at it a positive side. We have also learned so much from like the very first master class that I feel very positive that the team will be able to handle it so well for the next coming months as well. And since today is 8th and on 10th me and Ajan no are actually going down to depend nuns project because they also wanted to hear about a pitch tag and they're interested on having like a master class specifically for the nuns in like different naries and probably in this week we'll also go to uh meeta and then also talk about uh having the master class but through all of this we like gained lots of experience throughout the way so I'm I'm very certain and I'm very affirmative of the whole team that they'll be able to do much much better since like the very first we faced like all sorts of like circumstances that I I feel like this if in case we take it from a positive step it's it's like a very good experience for all the team members.

01:19:30

Tenzin Palkyi: So yes.

Ngawang Trinley: Okay, great. Yeah. And at the end of the day, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right? Uh and so that that's very true. So the more obstacles we can get, as long as we don't die, you know, it's definitely, you know, going to be useful. Yeah. Yeah. And I think something maybe that's good to remind everyone you know as it goes. Uh so I mean remind our partners is that you know we our goal is really just to help um uh you know the general public. Yeah. So I'm sure like you know Tatna or Zongar or whoever they they had like a great you know activity for their own people and for people who are more advanced I guess uh but for the general public and the reason why they came to you know to bala the reason why they invited us is because they know themselves that there's a gap yeah there is like you know something they're not able to do and which is to uh communicate you know dharma especially the core of dharma which is every Okay.

01:20:38

Ngawang Trinley: Do a little bit less harm, a little bit more good, know a little bit better, you know, our own mind. Yeah. Uh that's it. Uh so basically they haven't they are not able to communicate that with uh you know general audience, you know, modern public who lives uh you know online more than in real life, right? Uh and so this is why we're here. This is what we're trying to do. We're not trying to create you know some advanced courses on philosophy, on meditation, on anything. We're trying to get for everyday Buddhist um you know content five minutes a day content right five minutes a day content so uh you know everyday people can build uh Buddhist you know practice habit and they can help like you know to see the world from a different perspective right so I think these three things you know do a little bit harm a little bit less harm a little bit more good know a little bit better your mind every day so that's one thing and the the other thing like you know really like the if we think about like you know what is the goal of this after doing this these three things you know for a long time what is the goal is to be you know a really um you know proper Buddhist which is someone who remembers always impermanent everything is impermanent you know nothing in the world you know is going to bring us full satisfaction knowing that living that you know anything we do every day

01:22:03

Ngawang Trinley: etc nothing ever is going to be perfect. Yeah, everything is impermanent. Nothing is going to be perfect and everything is just an illusion that we are creating with from our own mind. Okay, that's a result of the three first actions. So these two sets of three things that's all we need, right? So that means like you know if they tell you okay I have like you know 40 years of experience. Yeah great I really respect that. But this is not what we are about now. What we are about now is bring these two sets of three things very simple things to make sure we bring this to as many life of normal people as possible where they are on the internet that's it anything that goes deeper than that uh you know this is like you know for advanced practitioners advanced students um this is not the point of you know all of this so if you can write it down make sure that you know in every call you start every discussion you have with them start with reminding this This is it.

01:23:02

Ngawang Trinley: This is what we are about. Okay. And basically if we are only focusing on these two sets of three things, right? One is the cause, what one is the method to get there. When is the results? Yeah. We are only focusing on this on these things. That means like you know PI or Norang or Ni you know are pretty much at the same level as you know people who have 40 years of experience you know teaching advanced practitioners. Yeah. if 40 years of experience teaching you know like uh advanced practitioners was uh you know the right thing you know to reach out you know to the general public on the internet yeah they wouldn't need us they wouldn't need to you know to come uh you know to BA right that's it so I'm not saying be disrespectful you know when they're saying they have 40 years of experience and you know when you have 40 years of experience whether it is really you know uh effective or not you know to share dharma doesn't matter what matters is what they feel they feel like oh I spend all my life doing this etc who's this teenager coming you know to lecture me on what uh teaching Buddhism you know is or is not I understand them you know you know

01:24:15

Ngawang Trinley: that's totally you know totally natural and legitimate you know to feel like that uh so that's why I think from our side especially when it's you know we're all like you know quite young uh we haven't you know like studied and meditated for many years etc. So I think from our side it's very important to uh set the tone right and say no we're not here to teach you how to teach Buddhism how to teach meditation etc. We're here to teach you and to teach like you know your people to help your people to understand how to communicate very basic things to the general Buddhist public right so I think it's very important maybe you guys discuss and see how to have a right formula to bring that up at the beginning of every meeting yeah because this this really will set the the tone right yeah if bal you come and you know tell me oh or tell like you know temporish uh you know I'm going to teach you how to teach Buddhism I they won't be happy and you know uh fairly so right that's it so I think it's really important to make clear what we are here for and why we actually can bring something you know to them too yeah and and how it is different from what they are doing and we with all due respect you know it's just like you know not the same thing right uh so I think if you can you know make sure you repeat that as being a

01:25:37

Ngawang Trinley: remediator every meeting is going to help a lot. Yeah. Uh maybe it's going to be a little bit weird to talk about this etc the first few times but please do it. Uh I think it it will help to uh make things clearer. Right. Okay. So that's that's all from my side

Tenzin Tsering: Did we cover the uh content testing

Ngawang Trinley: contenting part. So yeah how is your time?

Tenzin Tsering: part?

Ngawang Trinley: So basically now we're this week uh you know with the app. So we have like you know one month uh yeah four more weeks you know to really like you know bring the app and the content to another level. And so last week we were mainly you know working on bug bug fixes etc. Uh so we have like you know the tech team who's you know developers were working on you know completely different experience probably a bit more closer to what you see in sguru app or um you know even the bible app etc. So you have like homepage and you know citation of day and all these things so are being uh you know developed and so but one thing that we uh are focusing on this week is the content.

01:26:48

Ngawang Trinley: Uh so actually it's very similar. Thank you tensinger to remind me. It's very similar to what I just said about what is our mission with the app is exactly the same thing. We're here the we build this we're building this app to create five minute content for uh you know the general Buddhist public not for advanced students not for advanced like you know practitioners right and so now we're trying to find the right way uh you know to create content. So for example for the bodhicarat uh and for uh so we'll start with the dharmabada once the bodhicatara you know is well started and to make sure that we have content which is very easy you know for uh normal Buddhist you know consume to consume uh I don't know if you remember we were talking about like you know the Buddhist audience has four different tiers right the advanced uh you know like scholars and practitioners let's say I think some of you are familiar with the you know gishi Tibet house he has like the nalanda course and whatever right so the first tier is gi himself yeah so he he needs manuscripts he needs like you know some very uh you know advanced you know kind of like you explanations on things and you know whatever uh the second tier would be his students so people who spend like you know every

01:28:07

Ngawang Trinley: day uh or maybe like you know dharmadina right uh people who take her lessons reading abidama texts and commentaries and you know like all of these so this is tier two yeah so tier one will be damada herself gi damdul etc okay tier two is more advanced students so for this actually we're creating the content on the you know what is now called sher but will be the we Buddhist uh so they had a lot of discussions and we Buddhist academy they prefer than courses okay so the weist academy so it's basically the e-learning platform so for tier two yeah And but our main target to actually increase like you know the reach is the tier three. So general Buddhists who maybe only need uh only have like you know five minutes or less to you know to spend on you know their Buddhism. Yeah. And uh yeah we just want like a little bit something to get some inspiration or to get like a few tips to apply you know something and to just to be better Buddhist right. And the last year four years people who don't identify as Buddhist but who uh use Buddhist techniques you know for mindfulness or uh mental health or whatever.

01:29:20

Ngawang Trinley: And so this actually we we're not targeting at all because you already have like uh you know a lot of uh you know big projects like headsp space calm inside timer etc that do a very good job. Okay. Uh so that's it. So our main target is tier three. Uh so maybe during this week every day actually we'll have testing sessions uh at 10 and another at 10 in the morning another testing session at 10 at night. This week we'll be mainly focusing on content and so if you guys uh you know can also take part of this so I'm going to open a channel in the content channel on Buddhist developers on discord and if every day around 10 or you know another time is fine too if you you don't have time you know at that time but basically you know take so we have these two plans buddhistatara and abidharma go through them uh you know look at yourself uh you know as a a tier three Buddhist. Uh if you're tier two, I guess like Anchel and yes, maybe you you study a little bit more deeply.

01:30:24

Ngawang Trinley: uh uh but like you know try to think about like you know your mom for example or your you know like a businessman brother sister or something like this who identify as Buddhist but don't have much time to to you know consecrate I mean to spend on Buddhism right just think put yourself you know in their perspective and look at the content uh so is the format right maybe reading is the the content right too is it like too difficult too complicated etc or is it believable because you know uh of course we are going to use AI to do translations summarize you know etc but it has to feel believable right uh so if I give you an article tell you it's written by AI you probably won't read it I I wouldn't yeah if I tell you okay just like you know ask something to Google and you know look at the summary there you'll use that uh and we use that you know every day we ask okay you know the best way to do this or that etc. And the reason we believe it is because it has proof sources, right?

01:31:29

Ngawang Trinley: It has like all these links and we know that it's AI generated but it comes from real sources and it's uh you know useful. Okay. So we want to make sure we get the right balance in terms of like you know the content we create and uh it has to give the right feeling right and so people need to feel that you know this is reliable and so how we make it uh happen you know for people who just have a few minutes a day uh this is the challenge you know that we have to solve right uh so maybe you know instead of having I mean I'm just like you know trying out some ideas maybe in instead of having like you know an AI summary with like you know quotes from commentaries. Maybe just having like a one minute clip extracted from a teaching from his ownness would actually work better uh to to make people feel that this is you know real information and reliable information right. Uh so yeah uh so basically please like you know do at least once a day go through it focus on the content and you know tell us okay what would be your dream content.

01:32:33

Ngawang Trinley: So, so we only have like you know two uh constraints. It has to be in mobile. Yeah. And the second thing it has to cover you know the section of the text for Abidharma or Buddhist you know on the day and anything else you know notification chat bots videos you know I don't know Instagram style you know reals or you know uh you know whatever is fine. Any idea is fine as long as it covers uh you know the section of the text of the day and that it is uh in a mobile and that it works for a tier three you know Buddhist audience uh with just like a few minutes a day that's it. So if you can do this, send any feedback you have, any ideas you have, you know, in the you know the channel. I'll add like you know content feedback uh you know channel just after we we end this call. Uh that will help a lot and we have like a team here who's working on uh you know trying to improve uh how the the content is created.

01:33:35

Ngawang Trinley: Okay, that's it. No thanks.

Tenzin Tsering: Yeah, basically uh will you use it? Right. So we have like mostly third category, right? I believe so. But we have two here also. So will you really use it or how will you want it to kind of when you're using it for daily 5 minutes content or whatever. So how will you want it to be right? So that's the main point and just be imaginative about you and don't I feel after doing 101 uh most people feel like the uh the tech people feel like they're unheard and non tech people feel like they're unheard when they're giving feedbacks right so now it's about being really uh imaginative about it and just being uh sharing feedbacks whatever you feel like like Gala said yeah that's pretty much And I really expect nontech to participate more in this because what I felt here uh during the retra is uh I think uh most of the feedbacks are mostly from developers point of view and that's not really good for app.

01:34:44

Tenzin Tsering: Okay. I think that's it

Ngawang Trinley: Yeah, perfect.

Tenzin Tsering: here.

Ngawang Trinley: Okay, thanks a lot everyone. And yeah, let's keep in touch and uh yeah, waiting to see the feedback and then the updates based on your feedback. Yeah. And we now we have 69 uh daily active users. So we have to increase that that number by improving the content,

Tenzin Tsering: No. Yeah.

Ngawang Trinley: right? Okay.

Tenzin Tsering: Yeah.

Ngawang Trinley: Okay.

Tenzin Tsering: All right.

Ngawang Trinley: Thank you. Yeah. Uh Py,

Tenzin Tsering: Thank you.

Ngawang Trinley: let me know when you I mean let let Yeah,

Tenzin Palkyi: Sure.

Ngawang Trinley: let me know when you have time to look at the uh participants

Tenzin Palkyi: Uh yes.

Ngawang Trinley: probably.

Tenzin Palkyi: So after a while I have to travel to Delhi.

Ngawang Trinley: Mhm.

Tenzin Palkyi: So after that once I think I'll reach probably evening. So tomorrow Gala we'll talk about but I'll send you the list right now of all the guest

Ngawang Trinley: Perfect. Tomorrow morning is good.

01:35:34

Ngawang Trinley: Yeah.

Tenzin Palkyi: speakers all right

Ngawang Trinley: Okay.

Tenzin Palkyi: now.

Ngawang Trinley: Okay. Great. Thanks a lot. Yeah.

Tenzin Palkyi: Thank you.

Ngawang Trinley: Thank you.

Tenzin Palkyi: Thank you Gila.

Ngawang Trinley: Thank you. Have a nice day.

Tenzin Palkyi: Nice

Jordhen Tenzin: Thank

Norbu Tsering: Have a great day.

Tenzin Palkyi: day.

Tenzin Noryang: Uh pigila one more thing like when you meet with Angela maybe we should get confirmation of like who is Angela ear suggested like one tech guy can come like so maybe we need to add one more session with the

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Tenzin Noryang: tech guys uh to introduce we this app and all this so I think

Tenzin Palkyi: Oh, yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. We need to

Tenzin Noryang: we have like four to five people who are like settled in south so maybe whoever is like

Tenzin Palkyi: Uhhuh. Yeah. For them.

Tenzin Noryang: comfortable yeah mhm

Tenzin Palkyi: Like when I when I spoke they were asking me like how many people might come from our team then I said that uh earlier we spoke we spoke that 13 members something I told them that everyone's coming

01:36:20

Tenzin Noryang: Here.

Tenzin Palkyi: so like six and like uh another addition of like two or like one tech team yeah then yeah all need to think positively I think so well it changed my whole I was quite aggressive I Yeah.

Tenzin Noryang: Yeah.

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah. So we'll also meet tomorrow.

Tenzin Noryang: Yeah,

Tenzin Palkyi: We need to do a little planning for tomorrow.

Tenzin Noryang: sure. Yeah. Yeah, sure.

Tenzin Palkyi: Tonight I'll come to Namasala as well.

Tenzin Noryang: Yeah,

Tenzin Palkyi: Once I reach daily

Tenzin Noryang: yeah, sure. Yeah. Okay. See you tomorrow then.

Tenzin Palkyi: yes

Tenzin Noryang: Yeah. Bye. Bye. Thank you guys.

Tenzin Palkyi: okay Hi.

Norbu Tsering: Yeah.

Tenzin Noryang: Bye.

Tenzin Palkyi: Hello. How is it?

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. So this is what I expect and exactly that happened.

Tenzin Palkyi: I know.

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. First I just want to say sincerely thank both of our team metra who led this meeting actually not only

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: meeting going out there presenting you both did an excellent job gathering information understanding the situation on the ground which is very important discussing the event schedule and representing our team professionally which is very important.

01:37:43

Norbu Tsering: I truly appreciate that way you handled the discussion and stood up for team with

Tenzin Palkyi: What

Norbu Tsering: clarity I think and with highest respect.

Tenzin Palkyi: this?

Norbu Tsering: I think this is the pinnacle where it shows your guys you know character. So I have like huge respect for that and my understanding

Tenzin Palkyi: And we missed you as

Norbu Tsering: is there some of weaknesses I

Tenzin Palkyi: well.

Norbu Tsering: think if I look at it may have come from like difference expectations and working style and as a younger team we are like younger right we ask caution seek clarity obviously we went through some you know prof advocate for like professional standard because we care about the success of the program obviously and We we do things differently professionally not like a normal they are expecting like a normal NGO workshop type of thing. This question uh has seen them like actually this question should not be seen as a confrontation actually but as a responsibility but they took it as as always the old age and some

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: of the egoistic people do and believe our team did an excellent job handling situation professional and respect and for the future meeting and the hosting but I also feel like it would be beneficial to have both male and female as organizer to present there as

01:39:06

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: a stronger representation and particularly particularly in some case

Tenzin Palkyi: I slowly felt that this

Norbu Tsering: like hosting partner like this you know uh rest of Tibetan although some we don't have much of a problem hosting and as scala reminded us the goal is to you know always goal is to like help people realize you know but constructively we also need to share that they need to from there also they need to reflect from us also and I'm totally I don't know I'm being too strict or I'm being too stubborn or something but I finally in terms of attitude and in you know all those thing I think I do like to raise this concern regarding the interaction that occurred during the recent visit to a hosting partner. So yeah there is a very noticeable differences where they comment and we need to be clear because even in Buddha it's a we should defend the goodness you know we are doing this for the sake we ourself as a dharma duda messenger of you know

Tenzin Palkyi: What's this?

Norbu Tsering: and we should as a family support each other and defend each other in term of that that's why there is different kind of there is a Buddha out there's a a different form of very rigorous form of god Buddhist adwa why there is form there is danger because they are not to scare people obviously but they are there to defend ourel they are there to defend goodness and we are we have full responsibility to do that the comment really hurts me and I

01:40:48

Norbu Tsering: I know I never been that angry so far you know hearing all those

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: comments like why don't you trust us Like they even doesn't show them they just show they they are not trustable for the last few days where they comment on it and showing even the evidence that these are like going too far even though we will solve this problem for this kind of we need to think very carefully the logically firmly how do we approach them now next time you know how do we make sure they respect us inclusively you know how do keep this dignity acknowledge from both side you know so I think it's very important to uh keep this firm for and thank you guys you guys have different so well I'm very proud of you guys seriously this is how professional should be this just show this just I have different respect for you as individually personally as a character way you guys show yourself you know my god I have different respect for you guys so this just show how good you are you know professionally and I have respect for But that doesn't mean that uh uh you have to keep that you have to show this color similar in the coming

01:41:59

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: weeks.

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: You have defensive we have to firm with it like like Pegila said there like we have optional should be there such kind of condition we have to firm as a family not as like is only defending them ourselves as tilea me myself

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: vash whoever noa have to defend this kind of because our company we Buddhist promote compassion dignity right inclusivity and mutual respect therefore I believe it's important to acknowledge is concerned.

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah,

Norbu Tsering: So

Tenzin Palkyi: I think like the most important thing is like like teamwork and then

Norbu Tsering: yeah,

Tenzin Palkyi: standing up between for like between our teams. Um um I'm I'm quite certain that in the coming days there might be some few faces especially like during inerson sessions where few things might arise or if not like due to any unfortunate reason if it does we just have to like make sure that we stand for the team and also like nicely say it in such a way that we'll also be able to maintain a balance.

01:43:12

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. One point I'm concerned is the big about the increase in participant fee for 3,000 to 5,000.

Tenzin Palkyi: No,

Norbu Tsering: My understanding

Tenzin Palkyi: they were so see they were uh last time they sent the photo they like when they

Norbu Tsering: that

Tenzin Palkyi: sent us message in the group it was 5,000 but then they were saying that don't even say the 3,000 on only if like people if in case someone's really facing financial issue they're going to say so tomorrow I also need to have conversation with K& and then also talk regarding like how are we going to market the

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. Yeah. One thing I don't understand is regular because uh my from my understand accommodation venue most of

Tenzin Palkyi: amount.

Norbu Tsering: them are core facilities been provided by itself rather than through any external hotels or

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: conference venue nearby. Right.

Tenzin Palkyi: No,

Norbu Tsering: So because of this like uh so everything is

Tenzin Palkyi: no.

Norbu Tsering: there.

Tenzin Palkyi: And the center is there and the center is theirs.

01:44:06

Norbu Tsering: So,

Tenzin Palkyi: It's directly going to their pocket.

Norbu Tsering: so I I want to receive this like detailed breakdown of what this

Tenzin Palkyi: But then like

Norbu Tsering: 5,000 is actually about like there should be okay if we are like providing

Tenzin Palkyi: I

Norbu Tsering: some hotel nearby that makes sense. Okay, we we might be providing some AC related room. Now retreat itself last time about the uh Nagaloga, right? Okay, I understand that because place nearby they they should be you know providing but retreat itself

Tenzin Palkyi: wait.

Norbu Tsering: is there and they have this good facilities over there. Now this 5,000 people might ask us like what is there for obviously this is not for meals right?

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah,

Norbu Tsering: So this need to be very clear this amount because this

Tenzin Palkyi: I like now that they they going

Norbu Tsering: us

Tenzin Palkyi: to

Norbu Tsering: itself is not at all good actual facility over there all the five I don't know where they end up all

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: these need to be break down what they really are trying to this get because if you look at

01:45:05

Tenzin Palkyi: Yes, definitely.

Norbu Tsering: it right now there's not a single excuses where 5,000 need to be paid right

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah. I I feel like like since they introduced like many several guests, right? Especially guest speakers for them. They need to pay for their flights. They need to pay if in case they're going to stay anywhere. I think because of that, they're going to like they're seeing finding ways on how to do it rather than spending on their own. So

Norbu Tsering: I think yeah I have nothing but yeah respect for you guys you

Tenzin Palkyi: yeah,

Norbu Tsering: wonderful I'm telling you again and again I will tell you again on next meeting also if I may have to ask you know speak in front of or

Tenzin Palkyi: we definitely need to bring our guys like our guys.

Norbu Tsering: whoever yeah I will tell you guys and yeah well done well done

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: you guys you know don't worry about anything okay take it as a small problem now if you take it as a demeaning thing if you yourself you know insult yourself like okay this is too much they giving me such then don't demean yourself this is ing this comment sir try to face it challenge yourself you know you are in a right position right now you both of you guys are in you know proper position right there to defend yourself you guys are educated you guys are a proper dharma practitioner so no need to worry about anything

01:46:34

Norbu Tsering: seriously that's what I want to this is like encouragement word from my side or else right now I'm ready med in a meditative

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: states. So yeah, I'm very happy for you guys. Thank you once again. Yeah, please. And Piky, have a safe journey wherever

Tenzin Palkyi: Yeah. All right. So, I think I have to leave now.

Thrinley Dorje: Yep.

Tenzin Palkyi: I know Bangalore traffic is like crazy.

Norbu Tsering: you

Tenzin Palkyi: That's why. So, my flight is at 4, but I think I need to leave from now on. Okay. All right guys.

Yash Dixit: So

Tenzin Palkyi: Okay.

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. I want to ch Can you say back?

Thrinley Dorje: Yeah. Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: I want to talk about

Tenzin Palkyi: All right, guys. Okay,

Yash Dixit: happy.

Tenzin Palkyi: guys. I'll talk to you guys soon.

Thrinley Dorje: Yeah.

Tenzin Palkyi: Bye. Uh uh thank you. Bye

Norbu Tsering: Okay guys um I'll be very quick uh right now morning y and we had a conversation about the

01:47:21

Thrinley Dorje: Okay.

Norbu Tsering: marketing this you know class since tila we are the one who is responsible for selecting these people even though we are not doing promotion actually we are the one and

Thrinley Dorje: Y.

Norbu Tsering: if you look at the number of people participant now it is in second week we are left with only two three weeks and numbers we are getting very low right.

Thrinley Dorje: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: So yes we are also we are also thinking about like how do we you know

Thrinley Dorje: Know it's very low.

Norbu Tsering: tackle this master class how do we come up with this strategy. So till do you have any idea like how do we you know how do we bring this kind of people you know we are actually expecting like lot of number and trying to say great and all those things but we know you have any suggestion for

Thrinley Dorje: Uh as of now, as of now we have only six and yeah as of now we have only six then yeah last time I decided to to have a discussion with the bul I already mentioned her but since today we have very long meeting and everyone is tired of course and last time have sent us the sheet uh maybe is a Google sheet so peri also have observed this and we're thinking to you know now we don't have much you know participants then so we must have discussed we must have been Oh.

01:49:01

Norbu Tsering: That's why I don't know how to figure this out. But we do have two of obviously those speakers that coming out for the

Thrinley Dorje: Yeah.

Norbu Tsering: event those big people right these are like very people we can ask them to promote first coming week this week we have to do it very fast on two days you know that is one option second one is we can connect with some of the Maharashian community creators one is obviously in Buddhist creators which Yashla is going to message today obviously and try to connect with some people and try to promote it. These are these are the only two option right

Yash Dixit: And third like what about the Instagram sponsored post when you do it only for

Norbu Tsering: now.

Yash Dixit: Pune or Maharashtra that could also be

Norbu Tsering: Oh yeah, that is great. Yeah, I think Yasha I think we what we can do is we need to talk with uh what's that name? Noa for that

Yash Dixit: Yes. Yes,

Norbu Tsering: amount,000

Yash Dixit: definitely. Like at least I don't know how much like Instagram like maximum

01:50:10

Norbu Tsering: or something,000 to 4,000 they are taking last time we did

Yash Dixit: packages.

Norbu Tsering: that Facebook Meta Meta only meta family only which are the

Yash Dixit: Okay.

Norbu Tsering: most popular one. So yeah, see what happened, isn't it?

Yash Dixit: like you can opt for like for for a weekly campaign like 500 rupees daily something like that.

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. Yeah.

Yash Dixit: Uh right cuz maximum limit is 21,000 on meta.

Norbu Tsering: Yeah.

Yash Dixit: I was researching through it. So the maximum limit is 20 thou 21,000 per day but that would be a very hefty thing to

Norbu Tsering: Okay.

Yash Dixit: do.

Norbu Tsering: Yeah.

Yash Dixit: So yes yes

Norbu Tsering: We already now paying for like logistic of digital asset. Dr.

Yash Dixit: yes

Norbu Tsering: showing evidence itself not accepting how what kind of people are there but trying to avoid every

Thrinley Dorje: Uh,

Norbu Tsering: expenses they could.

Yash Dixit: they are charging money from other people right what's theity of charging 5,000.

Norbu Tsering: Exactly.

Yash Dixit: If we tell the participants, would they be coming over here?

01:51:20

Yash Dixit: No. Many students would be like why to pay 5,000? Like you are not providing any AC room,

Norbu Tsering: And plus you guys seen the video of trail right all the way

Yash Dixit: nothing.

Norbu Tsering: to retreat center the road isolated and

Thrinley Dorje: It's very

Norbu Tsering: look at the road. Oh my god.

Thrinley Dorje: isolated.

Norbu Tsering: tell telling and they all already telling us that people are old age and most of them are like senior academy you know whatever teachers and everything now I'm concerned about all those and for us let's say we are taking care of teacher it is not only about printing we have to carry out all the way up there you know do all things are like small thing that affect us because last time we we didn't think

Thrinley Dorje: Yes.

Norbu Tsering: about like they will print everything. Okay, that is we we have already strategically we have done that we will contacting with this tender we will printing we will pasting the we will uh connect with these people to you know pasting all the printing now we didn't think about small thing that is after a convention printing we didn't think about that big you know the big This cost about like

01:52:40

Thrinley Dorje: Yeah. Yes. Yes.

Norbu Tsering: 35,000 backside it's

Thrinley Dorje: Oh.

Norbu Tsering: a good quality one.

Yash Dixit: Mhm.

Norbu Tsering: Now after that during our design also we didn't think about like we can use it for next few years and everything you know after that we are totally mess up one day we didn't work on this one and after that I have to leave this place because my train is there and noa was left with every digital asset even standing she was so frustrated and she understand that why why I left it and not blaming us also and piggy lovers and only the women's are there all the coding retreat tag team guys are they already left it was it frustrating printer plus chari Just imagine this cover banner last minute now see

Yash Dixit: Are you there?

Norbu Tsering: the loss we went through we didn't think about all those things small small thing was so that's why it's easy to understand that we will do the you

Thrinley Dorje: Hey, there

Norbu Tsering: know printing bought it.

Yash Dixit: Mhm.

01:54:34

Norbu Tsering: All the way because it's very heavy stuff. They have to figure this out. And who who will do that? They will keep on throwing each other and I can see end of us caring. These are like small thing you know small small thing that we need to understand.

Thrinley Dorje: Yeah, everyone's uniting.

Norbu Tsering: There are a lot of problem and it's a rainy season.

Thrinley Dorje: Uh,

Yash Dixit: Yes. Yes.

Norbu Tsering: breathing it's not a small

Yash Dixit: Yes.

Norbu Tsering: problem will handle thank you all those thing because thank you in a bad because I myself is a patient I have this thank you

Yash Dixit: Yes.

Norbu Tsering: hospitaliz especially young person older person it's very risky.

Yash Dixit: and Du will refer after two

Norbu Tsering: That's why they thinking about like

Yash Dixit: weeks.

Norbu Tsering: emergency bigger concern. Let's say okay let's say really bad heart attack now we have to take them fast instantly to the hospital. Now how will you figure this out now

Thrinley Dorje: Where was

Norbu Tsering: they will tell medical concern.

01:56:24

Thrinley Dorje: it?

Norbu Tsering: So these are all like very you know concern that we need to figure this.

Thrinley Dorje: What's his business?

Norbu Tsering: Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So these are all concern we need to think when we are like you know uh when we are like finalizing all those things in paper it's look very beautiful in paper but small small details we we might face these are all concern I want to ask but obviously I'm positive enough we will figure it out but that's the only concern

Yash Dixit: Actually now they doing right.

Norbu Tsering: Exactly. This is what I want to say because they don't understand ground level first and they experience that and we need to think as per their concern until unless person get this kind of nose bleed. They don't understand that we we don't understand this situation

Yash Dixit: Exactly.

Norbu Tsering: emotional insult. had this kind of you know gangela didn't face this noa didn't face that we didn't I didn't face this for us it's easy to say be Buddhism be

01:57:47

Yash Dixit: Exactly.

Norbu Tsering: patience let's look at the good thing it's very easy until they face it gentila face lot of criticism for government that's why we whenever we come out with some government related project we used to tell them gentila new government is coming to Let's collaborate. He he used to reject it. No, let's not concern. Why? He faced the firstand experience

Yash Dixit: with Tibetan government.

Norbu Tsering: one situation I'll tell you that first e-learning platform first you went to office with group of people.

Yash Dixit: Yes. Yes. Yes.

Norbu Tsering: So first e-learning platform Gandi was one of them and Guant is the one who

Yash Dixit: Yes.

Norbu Tsering: proposed and Dr. a single I fully support you. We will fund you. We will help you. Okay. He was so happy about that. Next. Secretary. That's why he has this, you know. And plus one worse situation he faces I think right now he's good with that security that's why he shifted to and everything back there what he was that he was proposing this uh Buddhism 8200 he was

01:59:45

Yash Dixit: Mhm.

Norbu Tsering: actually a ex-M and he was ready to propose this to his holiness and that would be really you know very big deal but that time Kanti told us they said that now what kind of era is this now outsider is now doing this Buddhism related for Tibetan this kind of comment they made not Tibetan technically no he

Yash Dixit: like he's Tibetan, right?

Norbu Tsering: is French he was brought up in Tibetan. So, uh brought up in Tibetan uh orphanage kind of like Buddhist center,

Yash Dixit: He looks Tibetan,

Norbu Tsering: right? But if you come close enough really talk with him, he is not Tibetan.

Yash Dixit: right?

Norbu Tsering: He was brought up in Buddhist center. He was French. is French. So he Buddhist centers he is expert in Tibetan medicine. He is expert in medical all that's why he's very language and everything is really good at those things. So he faced such kind of in there he was so ready to give up but he always he said I'm thankful I've been to M practice and everything he doesn't give up and he end up going to Tibet here the Tibet he worked there for several time but later on their company got caught up with some CCP the some You know,

02:01:34

Yash Dixit: Okay.

Norbu Tsering: so yeah,

Yash Dixit: Okay.

Norbu Tsering: this just happened everything.

Yash Dixit: Hello.

Norbu Tsering: I think Yeah. Let's so yes online e-learning language he has really good history and that really supported him was there but later on CCB come to know that he need to leave you know come to India. Yeah, come to India. There is eastern part of Tibet if I'm not actually he was not in Tibet actually it's in Chandu or something China but he is operating in Tibetan institute over there. So he has to come back I think in India. He thought like his project won't survive in India due to all those political and all the society commentary and he left to uh I haven't because there's the ribbucha over there the partner who begin this we Buddhist actually he met there during that time you know so he went there for some other works and everything and he end up make uh meeting candela wife Jennifer and all those thing happened over there. So this is thing he went through but he is like very strong he is much visionary it's not like us we are quite fragile in

Yash Dixit: Mhm.

Norbu Tsering: thinking he's much more like very professional visionary and he he face so much in life that he doesn't take care of all those things you know situation I'm just giving you So context understand why he is so strong he is

Yash Dixit: Okay.

Norbu Tsering: unbothered. No, he went through a lot. That's why. Yeah,

Yash Dixit: CCP dangerous uh thing,

Norbu Tsering: it's not easy, right? That's why it's not easy.

Yash Dixit: right?

Norbu Tsering: Tibetan language. Buddhism is wider.

Yash Dixit: Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

Norbu Tsering: We are saying this if you cover Buddhism Tibetarian language so that's a

Yash Dixit: Yes.

Norbu Tsering: Tibetan language related some is working on this that is the distinction.

Yash Dixit: Exactly.

Norbu Tsering: This is the context I just want to say. Yeah, that's it. Let's stop here.

Yash Dixit: Hello. Trust me.

Norbu Tsering: Okay. Have a great day.

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